[10:47am] rockoncali: Good morning! [10:47am] jfee: good morning! [10:49am] rockoncali: I got a new a app so I don't have to worry about my IT policy [10:49am] MarkB left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:56am] juanmarin joined the chat room. [10:56am] Steve__ joined the chat room. [10:57am] bdollins joined the chat room. [10:59am] ManAboutCouch joined the chat room. [10:59am] feomike joined the chat room. [11:00am] jmfolds joined the chat room. [11:00am] skorasaurus: wait, has it started yet ?! [11:00am] skorasaurus: or am i an hour late ?! [11:00am] glennon joined the chat room. [11:00am] rockoncali: Hasn't started yet [11:00am] jfee: starting now [11:00am] • skorasaurus yells woohoo like homer simpson [11:01am] CMacwhorter joined the chat room. [11:01am] Steve__ left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed) [11:01am] scooter joined the chat room. [11:01am] Steve__ joined the chat room. [11:02am] mikem_ joined the chat room. [11:02am] glennon left the chat room. 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[11:07am] rockoncali: "It's got to be wicked fast" - pretty important [11:09am] mikem_ left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed) [11:10am] David___ joined the chat room. [11:10am] atanas joined the chat room. [11:13am] wboykinm: CALIFORNIA! [11:13am] skorasaurus: ^ ^^^ [11:14am] • skorasaurus coughs [11:14am] skorasaurus: http://clevelandgis.org/ [11:14am] • skorasaurus coughs [11:16am] wboykinm: Greater than 1:1, but tough to sell as awesome ROI [11:17am] shaunw joined the chat room. [11:18am] skorasaurus: govt meeting a deadline ?! [11:18am] bdollins left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:18am] TimoneyDenver joined the chat room. [11:18am] skorasaurus: so, how do you in the govt keep up w/ everything ? [11:19am] Sean__ joined the chat room. [11:19am] rockoncali: I watch James twitter / blogs [11:19am] TimoneyDenver: Govt keeps up by reading vendor publications [11:20am] wboykinm: TimoneyDenver: Is that true or witty? [11:20am] wboykinm: TimoneyDenver: Gov innovation would be awesome. [11:20am] skorasaurus: good point michael, the local culture... [11:21am] Sean__ left the chat room. [11:21am] TimoneyDenver: We forget the majority don't read blogs, let alone twitter and after-work Meetups [11:21am] ManAboutCouch: http://www.fixmystreet.com/ [11:21am] storm72 joined the chat room. [11:22am] wboykinm: TimoneyDenver: Or there's a person who's job it is to read and distill ALL TEH BLOGZ [11:22am] rockoncali: TimoneyDenver: Except...the people who lead innovation are usually looking for new stuff right? [11:23am] skorasaurus: or have a problem that traditional ways don't solve. [11:24am] TimoneyDenver: Organizational cultures particularly managerial risk-aversion, cancels out a lot of innovation [11:25am] TimoneyDenver: What large software vendors and govt contractors do well is alleviate perceived risk for managers [11:27am] wboykinm: Anyone got a link to this handy? [11:27am] TheSteve0 joined the chat room. [11:28am] ManAboutCouch: https://github.com/feomike/esri2open [11:28am] rockoncali: Broadbandmap.gov [11:28am] wboykinm: rockoncali: thanks [11:29am] rockoncali: wboykinm: Welcome [11:30am] donm joined the chat room. [11:31am] juanmarin: A GIO taking pull requests, feomike doesn't cease to amaze me [11:31am] glennon_ joined the chat room. [11:32am] TimoneyDenver: Shamelessly trying to get on the cover of ArcNews [11:34am] glennon left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:39am] CMcClain left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed) [11:40am] rockoncali: How can government folks beat the cultural issues with being more open- open code/open data? [11:40am] shaunw left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [11:40am] CMcClain joined the chat room. [11:41am] shaunw joined the chat room. [11:42am] wboykinm: Mike! Use Vega! [11:42am] wboykinm: http://trifacta.github.com/vega/ [11:43am] wboykinm: A less-painful D3 wrapper . . . [11:43am] chelm: is d3 painful? [11:43am] wboykinm: chelm: hey; we've been over this already . . . [11:43am] chelm: out of context james [11:44am] wboykinm: "will d3 hurt?" [11:44am] TimoneyDenver: Nice pie charts [11:44am] TheSteve0: Wait - microsites are the way to go - question driven app [11:44am] TheSteve0: DOWN WITH PORTALS!!!! [11:44am] chelm: i agree TheSteve0 [11:44am] TheSteve0: then link them together if you want a portal [11:44am] shaunw: grammar of graphics or go home [11:44am] chelm: well I think there's place for portals [11:44am] TimoneyDenver: Long live California GeoPortal [11:44am] awwright: regarding d3.js - i was looking at this today: http://healthviz.appspot.com/display/hs_30001 [11:45am] TheSteve0: TimoneyDenver: I pass wind in your general direction [11:45am] awwright: it's pretty [11:45am] chelm: awwright: cool [11:45am] chelm: no no [11:45am] chelm: I mean its NOT painful [11:45am] juanmarin: d3 isn't painful at all [11:45am] chelm: at all [11:46am] TheSteve0: D3 is the best [11:46am] rockoncali: What's the magic culture pill for people to get with it? [11:46am] wboykinm: As a bad developer I still find it jarring. Perhaps I should become a better developer [11:46am] chelm: haha [11:46am] TheSteve0: wboykinm: step up [11:47am] TimoneyDenver: Looks like a Johnny Rockets about to be held up by masked gunmen [11:47am] chelm: i think knowing jquery lends itself to understanding d3 [11:47am] wboykinm: OFFICE TOUR OFFICE TOUR [11:48am] shaunw: stenographic messages encoded in the floor pattern [11:48am] wboykinm: chelm: totally; and I'm getting more comfy with jquery, so things look good. [11:48am] chelm: I want to hear funny stories about Learon Dalby [11:48am] TimoneyDenver: How can we make money out of FCC "white space" [11:48am] csilva: Is GeoJson the "new" best data sharing format? [11:48am] juanmarin: +1 on funny stories about Learon Dalby [11:49am] TheSteve0: NOOOOOOOO [11:49am] TheSteve0: not geojson [11:49am] TheSteve0: right one [11:49am] chelm: why does TheSteve0 no like geojson? [11:50am] juanmarin: geojson is not a good data sharing format [11:50am] juanmarin: good for publishing, web ecology, etc [11:50am] juanmarin: GML is text too [11:51am] TimoneyDenver: When will FCC support GeoPackage? [11:51am] csilva: At the muni level, different formats for different folks right? (autocad, shps, geojson, kml, etc) [11:51am] csilva: thank god for FME [11:51am] chelm: juanmarin: agreed [11:51am] chelm: isn't FME just a paid version ogr2ogr? [11:53am] shaunw: also need streamable formats for some many cases, geojson / kml aren't as useful in that context [11:54am] TheSteve0 left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving.) [11:54am] wboykinm: "SELECT * FROM whatever&format=geojson" [11:56am] rockoncali: Culture talk [11:58am] juanmarin: geogit [11:58am] juanmarin: https://github.com/opengeo/GeoGit [11:58am] shaunw: 'the simplicity of git' that's going in the quote file [11:59am] csilva: github is the new ArcScripts. [11:59am] csilva: Just waaaaayyyy better [12:00pm] juanmarin: arc scripts was actually pretty awesome for its time [12:00pm] csilva: got me thru my GIS certificate at school! ha! [12:01pm] skorasaurus: yeah, their search query could be better. [12:01pm] skorasaurus: more intuitive, i mean. [12:01pm] csilva: and a Canadian flipping between you guys and TSN's hockey Tradecentre!!!! [12:02pm] csilva: half is better than nothing [12:02pm] MarkB: Caps=Terrible! [12:02pm] wboykinm: Better to be a Montreal fan this year [12:02pm] csilva: And better than baseball.... [12:03pm] chelm: at least the giants lost the opener too [12:03pm] atanas left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed) [12:03pm] wboykinm: When I was in goddamn high school [12:03pm] csilva: they are great right now [12:03pm] chelm: go rockies [12:04pm] csilva: and T.O. might make the playoffs... in both sports, finally. Damn it, they'll be all over sports all the freaking time. [12:04pm] csilva: At least north of the border [12:04pm] csilva: thanks! [12:04pm] TimoneyDenver left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed) [12:04pm] ManAboutCouch: Thanks everybody [12:04pm] rockoncali: Thanks [12:05pm] CMacwhorter: Cool Talk !